RE: ATM CRS grandfathered?

If you are just doing DSL wholesale over a plain Verizon ATM service in
1 lata, you don't have ATM CRS.

CRS is an Interstate service designed for voice and video providers to
get real-time/high-speed transport relayed through 1+ Verizon ATM hubs.

Only thing I am not sure of, is if those of you with the National ATM
service would be affected. Where you are aggregating multiple latas
into 1 ATM circuit (paying per meg per lata) which in itself was also
phased out but grandfathered.

Seth Crimmins
Network Operations Manager
Westelcom Family of Companies

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-verizonisp@westnet.com [mailto:owner-verizonisp@westnet.com]
On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 6:08 PM
To: verizonisp@westnet.com
Subject: Re: ATM CRS grandfathered?

The only ATM circuit I have is my DS-3 ATM for DSL wholesale. That
is the only service I have from Verizon, everything else is from my
CLEC.

I'm trying to find out who my account rep is so I can figure out what
they are going to force me to buy.
-Matt

On Apr 17, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Eric Kagan wrote:

> We recevied a similar letter for Frame Relay, not CRS (and as we
> have a ATM
> DS3 for DSL) I tend to think it won't be affected. Do you guys
> have any
> legacy ATM DS1/DS3 circuits at customer premise for Internet or
> Private WAN
> ?
>
> Eric
>
> Eric Kagan
> Access Northeast
> ekagan@axsne.com
> (508) 281-7626
> "Your partner for IP Network Solutions"
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-verizonisp@westnet.com
>> [mailto:owner-verizonisp@westnet.com] On Behalf Of Tim Wicinski
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:34 PM
>> To: verizonisp@westnet.com
>> Subject: Re: ATM CRS grandfathered?
>>
>> I don't think so. I've been tearing thru my bills to better
>> understand.
>>
>> Sadly, the number of the lady on the letter you call has NO
>> clue if you
>> have CRS or not.
>>
>> Bill Heinz wrote:
>>> We did, but have not had the time to research what this
>> actually means. Is
>>> CRS what we use to terminate DSL circuits?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Heinz
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-verizonisp@westnet.com
>> [mailto:owner-verizonisp@westnet.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Matthew Crocker
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:07 PM
>>> To: verizonisp@westnet.com
>>> Subject: ATM CRS grandfathered?
>>>
>>> Anyone else get a letter from Verizon stating that ATM Cell Relay
>>> Service is going to be Grandfathered and we need to
>> negotiate a new
>>> contract or switch to a replacement service offering?
>>>
>>> 'In December 2004, Verizon files a Petition for
>> Forebearance from t
>>> he application of traditioanl common carriage requirements and the
>>> Computer Inquire rules (WC Docket No. 04-440) to certain broadband
>>> services. Such Forbearance Petition was graned by operation
>> of law on
>>> March 19,2006. One of the services included within the
>> scope of the
>>> Forbearance Petition was ATM CRS'
>>>
>>> 'By grandfathereing ATM CRS, Verizon will no longer sell
>> this service
>>> via Tariffs; rather, customers will enter info private carriage
>>> arrangements, or contracts, with Verizon. This provides
>> Verizon the
>>> flexibility to quickly respond to market confitions and the
>> ability
>>> to provide you with customized solutions. If you currently
>> have an
>>> ATM CRS on a term plan that will expire within 6 months, we will
>>> gladly arrange a comparable service for you.'
>>>
>>> 'If you decide to continue with your current ATM CRS service under
>>> the Tariffs, you may make certain moves, additionas, or changes to
>>> your ATM CRS; however, you may not renew the term of the ATM CRS
>>> beyond the end date of its current term. Once the current term
>>> expires, you will have six (6) months following experation
>> to enter
>>> into a private carriage arrangement with Verizon to purchase
>>> comparable service. During this six-month period, the
>> rates, terms
>>> and conditions of the grandfathered Tariffs will continue to apply.'
>>>
>>>
>>> So, can they deliver the DSL PVCs over a different service?
>>> FastEthernet maybe?
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthew S. Crocker
>>> President
>>> Crocker Communications, Inc.
>>> Internet Division
>>> PO BOX 710
>>> Greenfield, MA 01302-0710
>>> http://www.crocker.com
>>>
>>>
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