Re: Routed over this thing?

Eric,

Update to information from Todd

Yes we are "one of us poor bastards in the East that Verizon doesn't have a properly
configured network for and are getting the RFC1483 bridged Encaps through the
Redbacks". We setup a user with a Broadmax HSA300A Modem/Bridge/Rputer. Got
it to work fine in Bridged RFC 1483 mode no problem, also got it to work in Bridged
llcbridged RFC1483 mode using its internal NAT router. The problem is that we are
attempting to get it working as a router in Routed llcbridged RFC1483, witch
according to the manual will work (I just got a call from the manufacture tech rep and
he told me that in router mode it will only work as a NAT router :( but it will not work
with NAT disabled, to bad)

I have 3 other routers to try
ZyXEL Prestige 645 ADSL Router
DSLW-ECA100 Ethernet Route
Aztech ADSL Ethernet and USB Combo Router DSL906EU

The setup we used to attempt routing is:

On the Cisco I setup a bridge to the PVC
ip route 66.250.201.41 255.255.255.255 ATM1/1/0.320

and router a /29 to it
ip route 66.250.202.0 255.255.255.248 66.250.201.41

On the 300A
lan: 66.250.202.1
mask: 255.255.255.248
wan: 66.250.201.41
mask: 255.255.255.0
gateway: 66.250.201.1

giving the end user 66.250.202.2 - 6 to use

On 2 Oct 2002 at 20:39, Eric Kagan wrote:

> Todd, Assuming you are talking about a Verizon ATM DS3 circuit for DSL and
> are using a Cisco router with ATM DS3 card to terminate I can shed some
> light. Ideally you want to be running RBE on the cisco (Routed, Bridged
> Encapsulation - hence allowing you to "route" over a "Bridge). We originally ran
> that other shitty configuration (IRB - yuk!) but quickly blew it away and
> converted to RBE. Since you talk about not having a real PVC for the customer I
> will assume you are one of us poor bastards in the East that Verizon doesn't
> have a properly configured network for and are getting the RFC1483 bridged
> Encaps through the Redbacks. Basically, to save you a lot of time and
> aggravation, you need to use a router for the CPE (not a modem or bridge) that
> supports RFC1483 Bridging (LLC). We have successfully used the Netopa 6100,
> 4541, Speedstream 5621, Caymen 3220 and Great Speed GS1530. We are currently
> doing this now with our customers. We basically give them a static WAN IP and
> they can either NAT that or we can route a subnet to them. It works like a
> charm. Hope this info helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. If I
> missed the boat on this one for you let me know. (Maybe I helped out someone
> else as well).
>
> As a side note we have unsuccessfully tried the following CPE: (Lucent
> Cellpipe, Cisco 673/675, - there might be more but I have blocked them out of
> my head). I would be interested in knowing what other ISP's are using for CPE
> so we could maybe create our own supported CPE config list.
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Troutman" <t@snoofer.com>
> To: <verizonisp@westnet.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:24 PM
> Subject: Routed over this thing?
>
>
> > First of all thanks much to everyone, especially Chris, for the
> > help over the last few weeks, it's very much appreciated.
> >
> > This might be impossible but I thought I'd check with you guys and see
> > if anyone had any ideas. So has anyone tried to offer a customer
> > a block of IP's in a sort of pseudo routed type of a configuration?
> > That is, without having a real PVC to the CPE but still offering a /28
> > or /29? So that it at least looks to the customer like they've got
> > some sort of real routed solution?
> >
> > This is a brain buster, Mike and I have been messing about with it
> > today but haven't gotten it to work. Maybe it can't work?
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
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