Re[2]: Routed over this thing?

From: Todd Troutman <t_at_snoofer.com>
Date: Wed Oct 02 2002 - 21:08:06 EDT

Hi Eric,

Exactly right on all counts. If I'm getting this right, connections
to the end users with single IP's with work just fine without RBE, just
doing AAL5 encapsulation. But to route to them, RBE has to be
configured?

The CPE is BroadMax LinkMax HSA-300A. It is supposed to work with
LLCbridging.

Today, after verifying that this CPE worked as a bridge and
passed traffic to the one IP of...
ip route 66.250.201.4 255.255.255.255 ATM1/1/0.320
We configured it for LLC Bridge and assigned that IP 66.250.201.4 to the WAN side of the CPE.
And then did this..
ip route 66.250.202.0 255.255.255.248 66.250.201.4

But it didn't work, couldn't reach 66.250.201.4 WAN address at all...
no arp, no routing... so maybe this is due to RBE not configured.
If that's the case, does what was attempted look reasonably sane?

Thanks,

Todd

EK> Todd, Assuming you are talking about a Verizon ATM DS3 circuit for DSL and
EK> are using a Cisco router with ATM DS3 card to terminate I can shed some
EK> light. Ideally you want to be running RBE on the cisco (Routed, Bridged
EK> Encapsulation - hence allowing you to "route" over a "Bridge). We originally
EK> ran that other shitty configuration (IRB - yuk!) but quickly blew it away
EK> and converted to RBE. Since you talk about not having a real PVC for the
EK> customer I will assume you are one of us poor bastards in the East that
EK> Verizon doesn't have a properly configured network for and are getting the
EK> RFC1483 bridged Encaps through the Redbacks. Basically, to save you a lot
EK> of time and aggravation, you need to use a router for the CPE (not a modem
EK> or bridge) that supports RFC1483 Bridging (LLC). We have successfully used
EK> the Netopa 6100, 4541, Speedstream 5621, Caymen 3220 and Great Speed GS1530.
EK> We are currently doing this now with our customers. We basically give them
EK> a static WAN IP and they can either NAT that or we can route a subnet to
EK> them. It works like a charm. Hope this info helps. Let me know if you have
EK> any other questions. If I missed the boat on this one for you let me know.
EK> (Maybe I helped out someone else as well).

EK> As a side note we have unsuccessfully tried the following CPE: (Lucent
EK> Cellpipe, Cisco 673/675, - there might be more but I have blocked them out
EK> of my head). I would be interested in knowing what other ISP's are using
EK> for CPE so we could maybe create our own supported CPE config list.

EK> Thanks
EK> Eric

EK> ----- Original Message -----
EK> From: "Todd Troutman" <t@snoofer.com>
EK> To: <verizonisp@westnet.com>
EK> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:24 PM
EK> Subject: Routed over this thing?

>> First of all thanks much to everyone, especially Chris, for the
>> help over the last few weeks, it's very much appreciated.
>>
>> This might be impossible but I thought I'd check with you guys and see
>> if anyone had any ideas. So has anyone tried to offer a customer
>> a block of IP's in a sort of pseudo routed type of a configuration?
>> That is, without having a real PVC to the CPE but still offering a /28
>> or /29? So that it at least looks to the customer like they've got
>> some sort of real routed solution?
>>
>> This is a brain buster, Mike and I have been messing about with it
>> today but haven't gotten it to work. Maybe it can't work?
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Todd
>>

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